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Master

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the rankings system right now is extremely bugger. Currently my guild Firestormers is the only guild on the povar server to attempt the living legacy raid. Yet because the system is based on eqplayers it is bugged. According to the rankings Final Empire and Darkova also reached 15 raids. I know why this is, because eqplayers never updates and we have gotten members that were previously in both these guilds and still are on eqplayers they have also "achieved" 15 waves. It takes away from out own guilds accomplishments when other guilds that haven't even attempted the event are tied on the leaderboard when they are behind us and have not even tried it. The ranking system is a joke. What were you guys thinking of when you based it on eqplayers, you could have just done a /who of the zone and been better off because it is taking away from our own accomplishments and giving them to others who ahve not done anything yet.


The Werebard

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So this morning the leaderboards populated.  Despite having done the event and gotten past several waves, our guild <Savage Arms> doesn't show up.  Other guilds on The Seventh Hammer are on there.  What gives?

Nodyin-Dev wrote:
- As soon as I.R.A. deactivates after each defeat you are *immediately* given credit for that wave and the data is sent to the leader board. The dialogs on Whizzlebang simply let you abort cleanly if you realize between waves that you're "done" and don't want the event to start up again while you're exiting the zone.

So as far as I can tell we should have gotten credit for the waves we beat even though we didn't talk to the Gnome.



Master

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I will not be able to see this because I will be at work all day but it is bugged on other serves also if the devs need different people to explain it to them


Augur

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EQPlayers has been, is, and always will be a bugged P.O.S. Why do you think Magelo even exists? Fortuantely the only light at the end of the tunnel I see, is that when Legacy is over the rewards will be given individually yes? So for the 60% of non-bugged toons on Eqplayers, you "should" be able to see the reward and connect it with their guild tag?



Defender

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Does your boss know you are this upset over a ranking system in a virtual world while you're at work?

Do you feel you should inform him about your current emotional status?



Defender

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Also, we did 13 waves and its only listing us as having done 11.  Some bug in the event reporting itself in addition to the expected eqplayers bugs?




Journeyman

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Currently you will see other guilds in the list but if you actually click on them there is usually only the one member who is now in your guild.



Champion

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It's not as bad as it seems.  I'm sure they'll get it fixed, we're just beta testing it.  And if you click the names of the guilds listed, it lists the members of our guild.  The most important part is that they at least got credit, albeit for the wrong guild.



The Inquisitor

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I'm also noticing that several people didn't get full credit. But they went LD and returned, it appears their credit stopped at when they went LD and did not continue, even though they were back in the raid and progressing.


Scholar

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Why does it matter what guild eqplayers or living legacy says your members are in? Its been said multiple times that rewards are each players "score" not each guilds. Don't have a panic attack.


Defender

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What the hell is a firestormer.


EQ Community Leader

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The guild doesn't get the reward, the players listed in it as participating do.

Click on the guild name on the web site (living legacy) and you'll see only 1 or 2 players there.



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Rozzl wrote:
So this morning the leaderboards populated.  Despite having done the event and gotten past several waves, our guild <Savage Arms> doesn't show up.  Other guilds on The Seventh Hammer are on there.  What gives?

Nodyin-Dev wrote:
- As soon as I.R.A. deactivates after each defeat you are *immediately* given credit for that wave and the data is sent to the leader board. The dialogs on Whizzlebang simply let you abort cleanly if you realize between waves that you're "done" and don't want the event to start up again while you're exiting the zone.

So as far as I can tell we should have gotten credit for the waves we beat even though we didn't talk to the Gnome.
You are given credit for the event activities immediately, however, the leaderboards are updated once every 24 hours so it will not reflect in the score until then. Please keep an eye on it to let me know if it doesn't update for you though.

Message edited by Zatozia on 06/10/2008 09:23:13.



General

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any chance that can be sped up? it's a competition, and if you don't know until a day after whether you got beaten, it's a bit hard to plan. i guess you just plan that everyone will do it the last day and try their hardest, whether they need to or not?

 



The Werebard

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Zatozia wrote:
You are given credit for the event activities immediately, however, the leaderboards are updated once every 24 hours so it will not reflect in the score until then. Please keep an eye on it to let me know if it doesn't update for you though.

We were (if not the first) very close to the first ones to do the event on our server.  The guilds that started after we were done for the night are on the leaderboards already.

Jim


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katatonicdreams wrote:
the rankings system right now is extremely bugger. Currently my guild Firestormers is the only guild on the povar server to attempt the living legacy raid. Yet because the system is based on eqplayers it is bugged. According to the rankings Final Empire and Darkova also reached 15 raids. I know why this is, because eqplayers never updates and we have gotten members that were previously in both these guilds and still are on eqplayers they have also "achieved" 15 waves. It takes away from out own guilds accomplishments when other guilds that haven't even attempted the event are tied on the leaderboard when they are behind us and have not even tried it. The ranking system is a joke. What were you guys thinking of when you based it on eqplayers, you could have just done a /who of the zone and been better off because it is taking away from our own accomplishments and giving them to others who ahve not done anything yet.

Have you checked to see whether those members fromother guilds have updated their profiles?  EQPlayers is buggy, no doubt (I still don't exist), but that might do it.


Guardian

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katatonicdreams wrote:
the rankings system right now is extremely bugger. Currently my guild Firestormers is the only guild on the povar server to attempt the living legacy raid. Yet because the system is based on eqplayers it is bugged. According to the rankings Final Empire and Darkova also reached 15 raids. I know why this is, because eqplayers never updates and we have gotten members that were previously in both these guilds and still are on eqplayers they have also "achieved" 15 waves. It takes away from out own guilds accomplishments when other guilds that haven't even attempted the event are tied on the leaderboard when they are behind us and have not even tried it. The ranking system is a joke. What were you guys thinking of when you based it on eqplayers, you could have just done a /who of the zone and been better off because it is taking away from our own accomplishments and giving them to others who ahve not done anything yet.

You got credit. Who cares if it shows other guilds with credit as well. With all the instances in EQ is your epen really that butthurt over it?



EQ Asst. Lead Designer

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I suspect that many of the issues being reported regarding guild status and Living Legacy information may stem from some confusion about how the EQPlayers update works.  This is our fault for not making this clear earlier, and for that I apologize.

In order for your EQPlayer data to be updated, you MUST have your EQPlayer Auto Update turned on.  Just issuing the /eqplayer command IS NOT sufficient to update your data.

To update your EQPlayer data you must:

   1. Turn ON EQPlayer Auto Update

        a. This can be found in the General tab in the options window (ALT-O)

   2. Issue the /eqplayer command from your chat window

   3. Turn OFF EQPlayer Auto Update (if you wish it to be off)

Again, I apologize if this information was not clearly stated before.  I admit that I didn't know this until just this morning.

NOTE: it will still take some time for EQPlayers to update your information after following the steps above, so please do not expect the information to change immediately after the update is done.  Please allow some time (24 hours for Living Legacy leader boards) for the update to complete.

A



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You may want to repost this in the EQPlayers Discussion forum as well.

I had no idea you needed to use them in conjunction either! =)


Hero

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I just found this out a week or two ago myself.  Seems just a tad complex for an integrated system, though.


General

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I've passed the word along to my guild.  It's not very intuitive to activate an auto updater in order to manually update something.

Can word be passed to the UI developers to change the in-game description of the auto updater; or, find someone who can modify the mechanics of the command line entry to activate the updater, run it, and disable it if the auto updater is unchecked?

Thanks for the info.



EQ Asst. Lead Designer

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Posted on the EQPlayers board.

I agree about it being counterintuitive.

/shrug.

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Champion

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Thanks for this post, but please realize, most people have this turned on and it simply doesn't work.  I know that I personally had to petition and wait 2 months before my profile started updating.  A guild mate went on an all out war to get his fixed and ended up leaving the game as a result. 



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Terminat wrote:
Thanks for this post, but please realize, most people have this turned on and it simply doesn't work.  I know that I personally had to petition and wait 2 months before my profile started updating.  A guild mate went on an all out war to get his fixed and ended up leaving the game as a result. 

As far as I know, this isn't the case anymore.

At least, my characters update just fine since the Maintenance a few weeks ago.


Champion

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Chanus wrote:
Terminat wrote:
Thanks for this post, but please realize, most people have this turned on and it simply doesn't work.  I know that I personally had to petition and wait 2 months before my profile started updating.  A guild mate went on an all out war to get his fixed and ended up leaving the game as a result. 

As far as I know, this isn't the case anymore.

At least, my characters update just fine since the Maintenance a few weeks ago.

Apparently, as far as the devs know too, but like I said, that's simply not the case.  Here's a few of our guild members that have broken EQplayers pages, and they have auto update turned on.

http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/c...Id=528280977810
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/c...Id=528281215379
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/c...Id=528280979238
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/c...Id=528280977797
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/c...Id=528280983267
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/c...Id=528280990782
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/c...Id=528280977974
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/c...Id=528281280023
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/c...Id=528280978017
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/c...Id=528281021164

That's just the ones I can quickly identify.




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That stinks ><


Champion

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"Counter-intuitive"? /snicker

How about "bug"?




Newbie

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Another thing is that when you turn auto update off, it says:

"Your character will NOT automatically update in EQplayers, you must do this manually by issuing the /eqplayersupdate command."

To me that says you can either have auto update on or use the command.  Maybe a rewording is in order.
 
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