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Banditman wrote:
70% of the time a Master chest dodges the smart loot code.  Making it more like "mostly dumb" . . . loot code.

Personally, I think the rarity of Master chests should be more than adequate already, and that Smart Loot should impact more like 80% of the chests.


Unfortunately, I am not going to fix the master issue with one zone. It was never the intention.




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Kander wrote:
Banditman wrote:
70% of the time a Master chest dodges the smart loot code.  Making it more like "mostly dumb" . . . loot code.

Personally, I think the rarity of Master chests should be more than adequate already, and that Smart Loot should impact more like 80% of the chests.


Unfortunately, I am not going to fix the master issue with one zone. It was never the intention.


so maybe more zone with smart loot to come or existing to be updated?



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Applying the percentage based smart loot system most if not all zones would be really cool and make people want to do the instances even more.   Also status was applied to alot of instances but RE has none, giving the final boss a status reward would make it cool as well.



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i'm totally against smart loot, its more dumbing down of the game IMO.  Is RE2 the only place with this smart loot on masters?

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FluffyGoat wrote:
i'm totally against smart loot, its more dumbing down of the game IMO.  Is RE2 the only place with this smart loot on masters?
Shard of Hate (x4 raid) has it too.


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FluffyGoat wrote:
i'm totally against smart loot, its more dumbing down of the game IMO.  Is RE2 the only place with this smart loot on masters?

i probably would be too but you can't deny the facts that some of the lower tier T8 masters are as rare as it gets with a number of them still not yet having been discovered on a number of servers. that is the whole point why it was put in.


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FluffyGoat wrote:
i'm totally against smart loot, its more dumbing down of the game IMO.  Is RE2 the only place with this smart loot on masters?


there is a massive problem with 71-75 masters, as said above, there are even servers where not even all have been discovered yet more than halfway through the expansion, that is the lowest drop rate of masters ever in eq2 history and even in t5 the masters dropped more frequently, which makes zero sense, because masters of other levels drop left and right and you cant even sell them because there is such a flood of them.

 

 




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Killerbee3000 wrote:
that is the lowest drop rate of masters ever in eq2 history


I'm pretty sure the drop rate at launch was much worse...you could spend days in Blackburrow or Stormhold without seeing any masters drop whereas masters drop like candy at those levels nowadays...also I think the DoF expansion still has a lower master drop rate than RoK...

The problem in RoK isn't so much the drop rate but more the level range at which the masters drop.  Prior to RE2, the only decent place to get low T8 master's was KC but it is a huge waste of time (at least until GU47) to farm there so you'd have to be really desperate (and have a few desperate friends) to try to farm masters there...


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I complained about having only ornates drop on the first day RE2 was out. I have run this zone many times and have had a few runs with only ornate. So nothing has changed. You were just lucky.



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I would actually like to see the cloak drops swapped. Slamhammer is more of a challenge to the healers and tank. Make him reward those able to kill him by having a chance at a healer or fighter cloak (heal cloak is already there, I know. I can't tell you how many tanks I have seen that can handle gas passer, yet fold in the first wave of adds when it comes time for a chance at the scout cloak.


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Smart master loot is kind of a joke. Assume you have 6 people with no duplicate classes in your group, not abnormal. You already have a 25% chance for a master to drop that someone in the group  can use. With this zone we have 30%. Unless the code is actually checking your spell book to see what you already have scribed, its a pretty insignificant "feature".

Iago



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JAFO74 wrote:

Smart master loot is kind of a joke. Assume you have 6 people with no duplicate classes in your group, not abnormal. You already have a 25% chance for a master to drop that someone in the group  can use. With this zone we have 30%. Unless the code is actually checking your spell book to see what you already have scribed, its a pretty insignificant "feature".

Iago


I've already posted this before but I'm posting it again so you can see the actual numbers...

Assuming that every class has exactly 30 T8 spells with a uniform distribution of dropping and that you're in a group with 6 players all of different classes, then when a master spell drops, the chances that someone in the group can use it are...

If noone has any masters:
Totally Random = 1/4 = 25%
30% Smart Loot = 0.3 + (0.7 * 0.25) = 47.5%

If everyone is missing half of their masters:
Totally Random = (1/4) * (1/2) = 12.5%
30% Smart Loot = 0.3 + (0.7 * 0.125) = 38.75%

If everyone is missing only 1 master:
Totally Random = (1/4) * (1/30) = 0.83%
30% Smart Loot = 0.3 + (0.7 * 0.0083) = 30.58%


As you acquire more masters, the advantage of having 30% smart loot over a purely random drop increases substantially.



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What ?

You're actually going to tell me that there are REALLY Master Chests out there in Runny2 ?

Regards, theriatis.


 
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