Kander wrote:

Smart loot means it should drop a master for someone in your group. It does not look at what you have in your spell book.

Well its not really smart loot then.

Yes, it is better than it is in other zones but some masters (cough...templar) are rarer than others.

Maybe make it so it checks spellbooks?

While I would love it if it did check spell books, simply having it drop masters only for classes that are present is a huge step forward.

As to masters from previous tiers that are not upgraded, no thanks. I don't want to go off killing any mob in T8, named or otherwise, and find that I have a level 25 master drop in a fabled chest.

Assuming you have a single friend in the game (or more, more is good) then those masters are not at all hard to get, if you and your friend(s) are willing to put in the time it takes to get them.

 

There is however 71 to 80 masters on a smart loot table.

Kander leme try and clarify this one. Smart loot on masters. Which means you get a master of one of the classes in your group and no others?

In a way I like this, but in a much larger way I hate it. What if I would like a master for an alt, what if i go in hoping for some masters to sell? A lot of people in my guild are nearly fully masterd and only run instances for the chance at a master for other guildies. If the loot is not going to overshadow raid loot (and I am not saying that is a bad thing) and the masters only drop for the classes in group. I have nearly no reason to go into the new RE. I cannot help my fellow guildies unless they are in my group. Thumbs down on the master smart loot.

So in short the amount of masters on the broker will not increase, because nothing will drop that cannot be scribed by someone in the group.

The more Swashy masters that drop, the fewer I'll have to search out on the broker, & the less money I'll spend getting them, so I really don't care much about this "issue" at all.

Kizee wrote:

Kander wrote:

Smart loot means it should drop a master for someone in your group. It does not look at what you have in your spell book.

Well its not really smart loot then.

Yes, it is better than it is in other zones but some masters (cough...templar) are rarer than others.

Maybe make it so it checks spellbooks?

While I would love it if it did check spell books, simply having it drop masters only for classes that are present is a huge step forward.

As to masters from previous tiers that are not upgraded, no thanks. I don't want to go off killing any mob in T8, named or otherwise, and find that I have a level 25 master drop in a fabled chest.

Assuming you have a single friend in the game (or more, more is good) then those masters are not at all hard to get, if you and your friend(s) are willing to put in the time it takes to get them.

That's easy for you to say, judging by your avatar you play a wizard that only has 1 spell that wasn't upgraded at the expansion.  Try playing a class that has 6 CAs that aren't upgraded in Tier 8, one of which at last check still wasn't even DISCOVERED on all servers.  On Unrest it was discovered in Feb of this year...for a CA that went in prior to the first expansion.

And for the record, since you seem to think having friends is the answer...I'm in a guild with almost 150 account and almost 400 characters in it, I check the broker daily and I still can't get my lower tier masters, so yeah, your friends arguement holds about as much water as a colander.

Flay, you have:

Smart loot

1) 1 in 6 chance that a master of your class will drop, unless you bring more swashys

2) It appears there is already a low chance on the masters off the named anyway

3) The more masters you get the less likely it is one you need

Non-smart loot

1) The entire server has the potential to loot and sell the master you need and vice versa

The number of players that could run through that instance in one day far outweighs the odds of your one chance a day.

Masters in T7 were much easyer to track down and buy the ones you needed because there was not smart loot. Now if this is the devs way of saying, work for your masters and don't buy them. That is one thing, but so far nothing has been said to this effect. I know a few people in T8 that actualy have every master for their class, why would they even botehr with this zone when they can just as easily go to a different zone for stuff they could sell for a profit?

And for the record 90% of my masters in T7 were traded for other masters I had looted, no plat needed. In T8 I  saw my first assassin master drop yesterday. Every other master I have was bought because they are so crazy rare. In T7 I could look up masters and find 4 pages worth, T8 there are 4 masters up and they have been there for the last month because people priced them all at 200 plat due to the rarity of just getting a master at all.

I am not asking for a zone to be a master factory, but for god sake with the smart loot I highly doubt there will be an increase of decent assassin masters on the broker at all.

So then what your telling me is you have killed all 9 bosses in the zone and seen every piece of loot?  All 50+ drops already?

There are nicer items as you get deeper and there are also some nice fabled items. Again, none of these items should overshadow raid gear. So raiders most likely will not run this zone for gear.

There is however 71 to 80 masters on a smart loot table.

I sure think a smart loot table for masters is a Great idea. (If I want a master for an alt, I'll run my alt thru the zone. And if the alt isn't high enough, then I can wait until it is high enough).

And even if raiders do run this zone for gear (actually, I think they will, certainly for the masters), they'll be a single group like everybody else, right? Pretty much everyone is on an even playing field. A contested zone is a contested zone, doesn't really matter who is contesting it.

I highly doubt there will be an increase of decent assassin masters on the broker at all.

I'll take my chances with the smart loot, & run instances until I get the masters I want, without having to pay ridiculously over-inflated prices to someone that won a greed roll.

Kander wrote:

 

There is however 71 to 80 masters on a smart loot table.

Kander leme try and clarify this one. Smart loot on masters. Which means you get a master of one of the classes in your group and no others?

In a way I like this, but in a much larger way I hate it. What if I would like a master for an alt, what if i go in hoping for some masters to sell? A lot of people in my guild are nearly fully masterd and only run instances for the chance at a master for other guildies. If the loot is not going to overshadow raid loot (and I am not saying that is a bad thing) and the masters only drop for the classes in group. I have nearly no reason to go into the new RE. I cannot help my fellow guildies unless they are in my group. Thumbs down on the master smart loot.

Fyreflite, I thought you might have learned something by your lazy itemization in RoK. Not all healers are druids.....quit making all the healercentric gear LEATHER!

Kizee wrote:

Fyreflite, I thought you might have learned something by your lazy itemization in RoK. Not all healers are druids.....quit making all the healercentric gear LEATHER!

I still have my fingers crossed that one of these days you will learn to spell my name correctly =/
Not sure what gave you the impression that there was a greater portion of priest loot in this zone, but that is not the case. For every piece of priest armor, I created 3 pieces. 1 leather, 1 chain, and 1 plate, and placed them on a smartloot table within the regular treasure table. If you saw a bunch of leather priest loot, the zone was probably being run by a group with a druid in it.

lol, nice.

I may be wrong, but I think Kizee is getting his info on loot from this thread, which as you can see, had 2 druids healing.

Kizee wrote:

Fyreflite, I thought you might have learned something by your lazy itemization in RoK. Not all healers are druids.....quit making all the healercentric gear LEATHER!

I still have my fingers crossed that one of these days you will learn to spell my name correctly =/
Not sure what gave you the impression that there was a greater portion of priest loot in this zone, but that is not the case. For every piece of priest armor, I created 3 pieces. 1 leather, 1 chain, and 1 plate, and placed them on a smartloot table within the regular treasure table. If you saw a bunch of leather priest loot, the zone was probably being run by a group with a druid in it.

I apologize. I missed that they were quest rewards. I will cross my fingers and hope for some plate items with good procs on them.

I just get annoyed because 99% of healer loot with good procs are chain or leather.