SoE should not allow guilds to sell Mythicals for huge amounts of plat. Here's why.

• Don't you find it hilarous how the guilds that compalain how dare they make anything easier for other guilds, people should only get to VP if they are a top guild and earn it, are selling Mythicals for plat?
• I'm a bit disgusted everytime someone grats's people in the channels who is obviously part of a casual guild and paid 600p (on my server) for a mythical.
• Why do you want to support farmer guilds and shove them farther to the top? So you can kill heroics better? Go you. If you're whole guild doesn't have them, one person isn't going to make your raids better.
• I have heard more than a few cases lately of people buying plat from plat companies to buy a mythical for themselves or a friend. Allowing this supports buying plat.
• While I think 100% flagging is silly and overkill, I do think people should earn a mythical and any gear and I won't have mine till I'm in a guild that I am part of killing my final mob which may now be never because this expansion and its flagging has made me sick of raiding and now I'm not raiding anymore.
• What exactly do you think they are going to do with that plat? hold it? give it to noob charity? Half of them will sell it.
• AoC is coming out, how many of the top guilds do you think will want to stay and keep killing the same mobs they have killed every week since 1 month after launch of RoK? A lot of them will be selling their accounts for cash on ebay, along with all the plat they got from selling mythicals and gear. I don't care what you try to say, I see the guild on my server getting about 5 people not in their guild a mythical every week at 600p a pop, and people in my guild have bought other VP gear from them, they are raking in plat for guild splits.

Tell me I'm a moron all you want, I don't care. If I would buy a mythical I may as well just have bought my toons on ebay.

Tell me I'm a moron all you want, I don't care. If I would buy a mythical I may as well just have bought my toons on ebay.

I don't think your post qualifies you as a moron.  It contained good arguments and was well constructed.  That said, while I agree with most of what you said and I do believe that the selling of mythicals is really cheesey, I'm not sure there is really much SOE can or should do about it.  They are selling an in-game service for in-game coin with no other (apparent) EULA violations.  It is even something that could be roleplayed out within game context.

So, no, I don't think SOE is going to do anything about it, nor should they.  In my opinion, it is a self correcting problem.  People who take the easy road to achievement (such as buying mythicals) tend to be people who don't stick around very long anyway.  Look at it this way - How long do you normally play a single player game after you turn the cheat codes on?

Pretty sure one guild is doing this on Guk...but I cannot be sure.  Just seeing some random guild mythicals appearing but not spam for the rest of the guild, just one or two people sporadically.

Could be wrong and some other innocuous explantion for it though.

They should just remove the broadcast message on the completion of Mythical Epics.

People would whine a lot less.

1. A few hundred plat isn't a whole lot these days. If all you do is farm heroic zones for master spells, and sell them on the broker, you can make 600p in a week, as many masters go for 50-100p. RoK has so greatly increased the amount of coin in circulation that people have far too much money than they know what to do with, and with so many restrictions on what can be sold these days, this money just collects dust.

Buying a spot on a raid to get a mythical is no different than buying any other status item. Sure, my Ferrari doesn't allow me to get to work any faster, but I look nice doing it. It's about conspicuous consumption.

As for AoC, i think some of the hardcore raiders will be in for a bit of a shock when they run into hardcore PvP'ers who have nothing but contempt for the carebear PvE game. It should make for interesting discussions on the forums to say the least. " width="15" height="15" />

That is a very wrong concept about the influx of money into the game. You can run all the instances (5) every day for one week and you will be lucky if at the end of that run, you have one master to show for it. Master rate is horribly low, and that is the main reason that most masters sell for upwards of 50-200 plat per. If masters were easier to get, the prices of master would be lower.

 Getting 500+ plat is something that will take about 2 months for a regular player who spends most of his time killing random mobs.

 With that said, some people want to pay for their mythicals because they have no other method of getting it. I was part of a casual raiding guild, but since we ran into a block along our progression, we lost most of our members to guilds that had already moved on in their progression. I was one of the best players in the guild, but I am more dedicated to my current guild and would not like to leave. Does that mean that I should now be denied my mythical only because I am not part of the other guild? Should I not have my possiblity to ask this other guild to escort me through my mythical updates? They don't seem to think so, and so eventually I WILL get my epic without it being my guild that does it.

 So your idea to deny players to get their mythical update if they are not part of the guild that completes it is unfounded. What about those guilds in alliances? Should they be denied to get mythicals because they are not one guild?

Dasein wrote:

1. A few hundred plat isn't a whole lot these days. If all you do is farm heroic zones for master spells, and sell them on the broker, you can make 600p in a week, as many masters go for 50-100p. RoK has so greatly increased the amount of coin in circulation that people have far too much money than they know what to do with, and with so many restrictions on what can be sold these days, this money just collects dust.

Buying a spot on a raid to get a mythical is no different than buying any other status item. Sure, my Ferrari doesn't allow me to get to work any faster, but I look nice doing it. It's about conspicuous consumption.

As for AoC, i think some of the hardcore raiders will be in for a bit of a shock when they run into hardcore PvP'ers who have nothing but contempt for the carebear PvE game. It should make for interesting discussions on the forums to say the least. " width="15" height="15" />

That is a very wrong concept about the influx of money into the game. You can run all the instances (5) every day for one week and you will be lucky if at the end of that run, you have one master to show for it. Master rate is horribly low, and that is the main reason that most masters sell for upwards of 50-200 plat per. If masters were easier to get, the prices of master would be lower.

I see this topic at least once a week.  It dosent bother me at all.  If someone wants their mythical, and it was done through in game means.. then whats the problem?

I see people doing all kinds of services like this in other mmo's for in game cash. 

They should just remove the broadcast message on the completion of Mythical Epics.

People would whine a lot less.

Pretty sure one guild is doing this on Guk...but I cannot be sure.  Just seeing some random guild mythicals appearing but not spam for the rest of the guild, just one or two people sporadically.

 

Could be wrong and some other innocuous explantion for it though.

I always thought that the epic weapons were a bad idea.  In fact, I remember an interview with EQ2 devs about year or two ago that defended why they didn't have epics in EQ2.  Too bad Sony didn't listen to those devs because they had a firmer grasp on the game than others.

That being said, I see the positives of people being able to buy their mythical.  It's not just a piece of raid gear.  People see the mythicals as the ultimate class piece for their class.  Some have played their class for many years now.  It only makes sense that they want to have that piece of gear designed just for them.

On the other hand, this does encourage plat buying and further drives a wedge between raiders and non-raiders.

To sum it up, there is no easy answer.  The whole idea of a mythical epics was a bad idea.  Looking at both sides, it's probably better just to go on letting guilds sell mythical runs.  It's not the ideal solution but it's better than cracking down on it.

SoE should not allow guilds to sell Mythicals for huge amounts of plat.

Tell me I'm a moron all you want, I don't care. If I would buy a mythical I may as well just have bought my toons on ebay.

Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:

SoE should not allow guilds to sell Mythicals for huge amounts of plat.

While I think someone buying their mythical is stupid, what would you suggest as a means to prevent it or police it?  At the same time, how would you prevent to police selling "loot rights" to any in-game item?

Frankly, as long as the exchange is in-game currency, there really isn't anything in the rules against it. 

Buying and exchanging in-game items, currency, characters, loot-rights, etc for real money IS against the rules.