After 6 Epic crafters, I am really organized with my sytem. I am adamant about not wasting raws, vitality or time, so I try to be as efficient as possible. For more details on quests my favorite places are eq2traders, allakazam & wikia. Check the broker to see what the harvesting tools look like, and see the stickied tradeskill gear & racial traits thread.

I used to not do not fisrt pristines without vitality, but city TS writs still give 6-10% XP and are not dependant on vitality. It really doesn't matter if you have vitality anymore.

Basic Tradeskill Timeline by Unrest.Zehl / Unrest.Katayira

When possible during TS leveling:
max all harvest skills
max swimming

For 70+ adventuerer, at each 10 levels pick up the Journeyman's service quest, go harvest that
tier of the harvest cloak quest, and do a hungry halfling quest at the same time. Sadly, lower level
adventurers will have a very hard time completing the harvesting cloak quest. You may just want to do the harvest cloak in one shot first thing, which will give you a nice starting bunch of raws/rares for each tier, and some to sell on the market.

Get the best harvest tools usable (if adventure level 80 use redwood by woodworker till you can use overclocked by tinkerer)
90 gathering skill - Feeding Duggin quests - give 5% TS xp, 0 AA
level 1 Crafting Tutorial in your hometown crafting instance, gives Artisan Tunic
level 1 evil, Chocolate Chip Cookies of Seething Malice, Neriak, Kelryne V'Ziath -481, 66, 100
level 20 1% success tinkered item
level 20 Journeyman Service quest
level 20 start doing city TS writs
level 30 get Miscalibrated Automated shears, net, pick (1 sec reduce, pick +10 mining)
level 30 Tradesman Service quest
level 33 2% success tinkered item
level 40 Advanced (yourclass) Service quest
level 44 All can start using \aITEM -160122792 -502169588:Gnomish Divining Rod\/a
level 46 get Calibrated Automated shears, net, pick (1.5 sec reduce, pick +15 mining)
level 50 Mara crafters charm slot item & harvesting bag & start faction quests
level 50 Advanced Journeyman Tasks quest
level 50 Ship Out - Moors of Ykesha (pick up faction recipes from Survival Accord, Grobb, Tupta while doing this)
level 50 Termite Troubles, Part I (Moor's, TS XP & faction with Guktan Guard)
level 50 Termite Troubles, Part II
level 50 Termite Troubles, Part III
level 50 Termite Troubles, Part IV
level 50 Zubzub's Munchies, Part I (Moor's, TS XP &  gives faction with Grobb)
level 50 Zubzub's Munchies, Part II
level 50 Zubzub's Munchies, Part III
level 50 Zubzub's Munchies, Part IV
level 50 Firmroot Moot Meet (Moor's, TS XP & gives Survival Accord faction)
level 50 Survival Concerns
level 50 start Moors Survival Accord, Grobb, & Tupta daily writs for extra pristines
level 54 3% success tinkered item
level 55 Get Burnt recipes 1-7, Deep Forge drop, tradable
level 60 Senior Crafter Service quest
level 65 Crafter Sokokar access Quest (if low level adventurer)
level 65 TSO faction furniture recipes, 1 book each from Survival Accord, Grobb, Tupta
level 66 get Overclocked Automated shears, net, pick (2.5 sec reduce, pick +20 mining)
level 70 A Gathering Obsession, harvest cloak, each part gives about 2-3% AA & 20-40% TS XP
level 70 New Lands, New Profits quest
level 75 High Risks, Higher Profits quest
level 80/400 fishing get Collapsible Fishing Pole (2.5 sec reduce, see magma fish)
level 80 crafter epic quest
Bathezid watch faction recipes
Riliss faction recipes
Danak faction recipes

Other gear to look for: various sol eye drops, sewing needle from Nek3 and Apron of the Artifacer
from Nek3, NT quest starter for harvesting DWBs from last boss of Unrest. Buy Mara faction gear as soon as you can use it and have the faction & tokens.

Optional:
Brell diety - has a few harvesting and tradeskill blessings & miracles
level 14 adventure - Crack Pot quest for Recipe for Mooshga Mush, level 15 craftsman can use
level 24 adventure - Tree within a Tree quest for NT recipe for Golden Acorn, level 9 all classes
level 30 adventure - Fundraiser Two: Sewing a Sampler quest, Valefolk Shawl recipe 34 tailor
level 30 adventure - Fundraiser Three: Table for Two quest, Vale Briarwood Bookcase recipe 32 carp
level 33 adventure - Fundraiser One: Apples Away quest, Hopple's Apple Pie recipe level 37 provis
level 33 adventure - Fundraiser Four: Dagger of Doom quest, Leatherfoot Knuckles Design recipe 35 weaponsmith
level 35 Carpenters - buy Diety Altar Crafting book on Butcherblock docks (commons)
level 37 armorer - blood iron recipes from DFC
level 40 weaponsmith - wyrmsteel recipes (Classified Recipes of the Coalition)
level 55 Artisan - Get Burnt recipes 1-7, Deep Forge drop, tradable
level 60 Carpenters go get the Wantia furniture book, collection tome in Village of Shin
level 60 Artisan - Badly burned notes on tapestry weaving recipe from Najena: Deep Forge
level 65 Artisan - TSO Faction Furniture recipes (Grobb, Tupta, Firmroot Moot/Survival Accord)
level 65 Carpenters - buy Advanced Diety Altar Crafting book on Butcherblock docks (rares)
level 65 Carpenters - buy Decorative Diety Shrines book on Butcherblock docks (decorative only)
level 69 (alchemist only) A bit of Fire, a bit of Ice - dust distillation recipes
level 70 provis - Halasian Icebrew recipe from Unrest
level 80/400 fishing - get Collapsible Fishing Pole (2.5 sec reduce, see magma fish)
\aITEM 849393196 334618307:[Collapsible Fishing Pole]\/a
Emerald Halls recipes
Enigma recipes

*Fundraiser recipes are tradable

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EDITS:

3/4/09
added Firmroot Moot Meet & Survival Concerns quests

2/16/09
added Zubzub's Munchies series

2/16/09
added Termite Troubles series

1/24/09
added level 44 Gnomish Divining Rod

1/7/09
added these to optional list:
level 35 Carpenters - buy Diety Altar Crafting book on Butcherblock docks (commons)
level 55 Artisan - Get Burnt recipes 1-7, Deep Forge drop, tradable
level 60 Artisan - Badly burned notes on tapestry weaving recipe from Najena: Deep Forge
level 65 Artisan - TSO Faction Furniture recipes (Grobb, Tupta, Firmroot Moot/Survival Accord)
level 65 Carpenters - buy Advanced Diety Altar Crafting book on Butcherblock docks (rares)
level 65 Carpenters - buy Decorative Diety Shrines book on Butcherblock docks (decorative only)

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Wow, and they tell me *I'm* a bit obsessed

Added that to the FAQ sticky!

NICE!!  I thought I had it down to a science, but you have put me to shame!

Getting ready to start a baby carpenter and will use your model to level her.

Over Christmas, I have been planning just such a list. The main difference between your list and mine is that mine is scraps of paper that only I can see and understand and yours is typed up and shared. Thank you very much for that.

On the Mara questline, you mentioned the charm that you can get which is, I assume the one that comes from the questline that starts with the quest "Improving Relations with the Locals" followed by a class specific quest? From this of course, comes the wonderful "Wantia Artisan's Satchel" which I get for all my ts toons as soon as possible.

And just for interest, I now level almost exclusively by writs rather than pristine recipes. This means that I have enough faction at the end to buy recipe books from the Ironforge Exchange etc and I also get status for my guild. This suits my playstyle. And finally, when I started  out, I didn't do the ts tutorials but do now. They are well thought out in that you get to go and harvest and then you come back and use the stuff you gathered to craft the items.

Thanks again. I really appreciate your post.

Apsenniel@Splitpaw wrote:

Over Christmas, I have been planning just such a list. The main difference between your list and mine is that mine is scraps of paper

lol. I used to play consoles, I used to find downloadable text walkthroughs for some games, and before that even I already learned it was best to keep your computer very organized (mp3s & websites I used to make started me on that). I found different walkthroughs with different info so started making folders for each game.. and then EQ2 got its own when I was shown it. Even with the Prima guide in front of me, TSing was SO complicated my earliest days 4 years ago.. so I kept notes for quests, and since I do like to play alts, started noting anything I didn't find online, and I have a bunch of folders and text files with crazy organized info about everything I do in game that I may need again for myself or to help others.

On the Mara questline, you mentioned the charm that you can get which is, I assume the one that comes from the questline that starts with the quest "Improving Relations with the Locals" followed by a class specific quest?

Yep thats the one. that initial faction quest is some nice XP too for the little ones.

And just for interest, I now level almost exclusively by writs rather than pristine recipes. 

Ouch.. skipping pristines makes me hurt lol... I dont mind getting the faction at the end once the crafter is 80, and the SP is WAY more for T8 writs. I only have one near maxed of my 6, they didn't have a real need but I will slowly do it for each of them so that I get one maxed in each city to buy toys, and to help level my own little guild.

Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:

lol. I used to play consoles, I used to find downloadable text walkthroughs for some games, and before that even I already learned it was best to keep your computer very organized (mp3s & websites I used to make started me on that). I found different walkthroughs with different info so started making folders for each game.. and then EQ2 got its own when I was shown it. Even with the Prima guide in front of me, TSing was SO complicated my earliest days 4 years ago.. so I kept notes for quests, and since I do like to play alts, started noting anything I didn't find online, and I have a bunch of folders and text files with crazy organized info about everything I do in game that I may need again for myself or to help others.

 

Back in the olde days we had binders full of info for EQ, lol.

I have a carp but I forgot about altars! In glancing over an eq2traders page it jostled my memory of that:

http://eq2.eqtraders.com/articles/a...hp?article=g291

I have to check the recipe levels later, I think 30s and 60s? But you buy them from the historian on the Butcherblock docks for a few plat.

Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:

Apsenniel@Splitpaw wrote:

Over Christmas, I have been planning just such a list. The main difference between your list and mine is that mine is scraps of paper

lol. I used to play consoles, I used to find downloadable text walkthroughs for some games, and before that even I already learned it was best to keep your computer very organized (mp3s & websites I used to make started me on that). I found different walkthroughs with different info so started making folders for each game.. and then EQ2 got its own when I was shown it. Even with the Prima guide in front of me, TSing was SO complicated my earliest days 4 years ago.. so I kept notes for quests, and since I do like to play alts, started noting anything I didn't find online, and I have a bunch of folders and text files with crazy organized info about everything I do in game that I may need again for myself or to help others.

On the Mara questline, you mentioned the charm that you can get which is, I assume the one that comes from the questline that starts with the quest "Improving Relations with the Locals" followed by a class specific quest?

Yep thats the one. that initial faction quest is some nice XP too for the little ones.

And just for interest, I now level almost exclusively by writs rather than pristine recipes. 

Ouch.. skipping pristines makes me hurt lol... I dont mind getting the faction at the end once the crafter is 80, and the SP is WAY more for T8 writs. I only have one near maxed of my 6, they didn't have a real need but I will slowly do it for each of them so that I get one maxed in each city to buy toys, and to help level my own little guild.

 

Oh wow! I used to play games that needed everything written down - like text adventures! I played the Ultima SP games for years and made my own maps for those. I actually spent as much time making maps as playing! I am a great writer down of things/typer up of things so also have a lot of notes around. Maybe we should write a book and get rich quick in RL?

As for levelling by writs rather than pristine recipes, it is a bit "ouch" I admit! Of my five level 80 crafters, only one has enough faction for the special recipes so my change in approach is recent. I put on my booktape and prepare for a relaxing hour or two!

anyway, keep up the good work!

Apsenniel@Splitpaw wrote:

Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:

Apsenniel@Splitpaw wrote:

Over Christmas, I have been planning just such a list. The main difference between your list and mine is that mine is scraps of paper

lol. I used to play consoles, I used to find downloadable text walkthroughs for some games, and before that even I already learned it was best to keep your computer very organized (mp3s & websites I used to make started me on that). I found different walkthroughs with different info so started making folders for each game.. and then EQ2 got its own when I was shown it. Even with the Prima guide in front of me, TSing was SO complicated my earliest days 4 years ago.. so I kept notes for quests, and since I do like to play alts, started noting anything I didn't find online, and I have a bunch of folders and text files with crazy organized info about everything I do in game that I may need again for myself or to help others.

On the Mara questline, you mentioned the charm that you can get which is, I assume the one that comes from the questline that starts with the quest "Improving Relations with the Locals" followed by a class specific quest?

Yep thats the one. that initial faction quest is some nice XP too for the little ones.

And just for interest, I now level almost exclusively by writs rather than pristine recipes. 

Ouch.. skipping pristines makes me hurt lol... I dont mind getting the faction at the end once the crafter is 80, and the SP is WAY more for T8 writs. I only have one near maxed of my 6, they didn't have a real need but I will slowly do it for each of them so that I get one maxed in each city to buy toys, and to help level my own little guild.

 

Oh wow! I used to play games that needed everything written down - like text adventures! I played the Ultima SP games for years and made my own maps for those. I actually spent as much time making maps as playing! I am a great writer down of things/typer up of things so also have a lot of notes around. Maybe we should write a book and get rich quick in RL?

As for levelling by writs rather than pristine recipes, it is a bit "ouch" I admit! Of my five level 80 crafters, only one has enough faction for the special recipes so my change in approach is recent. I put on my booktape and prepare for a relaxing hour or two!

anyway, keep up the good work!

 

LOL.  I played the first Zork game on a DEC computer at NYU in the 70s.  After school, I didn't get involved in games again until late 1989/90. I mapped Mad Maze on Prodigy. I loved text adventure games.  I see some of them in my head as least as clearly as I see EQ2 in living color now but I still have an old fashioned notebook on my desk for EQ2.  I sure would like an in game version better. 

Back to topic at hand.  I raised my armorer with writs.  It broke my heart when she reached level 80 with gallons of unused ts exp potions.  I had to raise her the very hard way just to get the Ironforge faction.  She's the only one of my characters that will ever get that faction.  I may raise a new crafter but it will be the easy way.  If they can't get what they want from adventure factions they will not get it at all.  I got all ROK faction except for 10K in Bath Watch by adventuring and I'm quite happy that option was open to us.  I can't imagine having had to choose between getting the Ironforge faction or the Bathezid faction or doing writs for nothing but faction, which is a waste.

Silken@Butcherblock wrote:

Apsenniel@Splitpaw wrote:

I can't imagine having had to choose between getting the Ironforge faction or the Bathezid faction or doing writs for nothing but faction, which is a waste.

My jeweler was the only one who reached 80 with a few leftover pristines, I'll have them for t9 (though I'd prefer to never have to level up again, I find zero joy in level grinding, it's only a time sink). I was out doing ROK writs as soon as my crafters were able to, that was the best TS xp possible plus like 5 more sets of 1st pristines, they had different sets of recipes based on your level and faction with them.

I got my 40K faction with the FPT TS house at the best time, I had worked on in spare time over 3 years, even did some before DoF when they were a total pita. I did the majority of faction grinding while my provis was 70 when that was the level cap. I got my 40k faction a month before AA mirrors came in, by pure coincidence, and lots of joy to me because I made some nice plat from it as well as the recipe & mirror disco for my server. I still make nice plat off mannequins, also a 40k requirement. I'm in no rush for any of my others to have 40k, as long as one can make them with one, that's fine (I have a friend who makes my mirrors for the alts on the same account as the SK).

Since my own alt guild (well.. right now it's my main guild cause I'm on a raiding burnout break so my Inq is back with the alt guild) is 30, and I'm still toying with getting my own T1 guild hall, I have thought of having all my crafters get max faction in each city of their allignment for more SP and ability to buy anything I want.

A calculation I made based on current faction given for non timed writs, you can get 2.5ish million SP for a character by the time you go from 0 to max faction with a city. I forget the exact number I came up with one day, but I was pondering which titles I want to blow my SP on for my SK & Inq, and what SP I'll have left between my characters, how long I ccould keep a T1 guild hall going if I stopped getting anymore SP that day. The suck is that when you get 50k faction, you can't do TS writs anymore, so if I were to spend all my SP for guild hall, I cannot rely on ts writs forever, my preferred SP method, unless I just create dummy TSers for the purpose of that.

Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:

A calculation I made based on current faction given for non timed writs, you can get 2.5ish million SP for a character by the time you go from 0 to max faction with a city. I forget the exact number I came up with one day, but I was pondering which titles I want to blow my SP on for my SK & Inq, and what SP I'll have left between my characters, how long I ccould keep a T1 guild hall going if I stopped getting anymore SP that day. The suck is that when you get 50k faction, you can't do TS writs anymore, so if I were to spend all my SP for guild hall, I cannot rely on ts writs forever, my preferred SP method, unless I just create dummy TSers for the purpose of that.

Interesting. I hadn't realized that you couldn't get more writs once you had maxed out your status. I too am thinking of status for guild hall upkeep of a small guild. Well I reckon we don't have to worry for a long time with all the accumulated status we have between us but you have to look ahead! At the moment, I shall try to stick with writs to level as that does advance in two or three ways. Maybe now and then I will treat myself and do a pristine recipe!

Apsenniel@Splitpaw wrote:

Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:

A calculation I made based on current faction given for non timed writs, you can get 2.5ish million SP for a character by the time you go from 0 to max faction with a city. I forget the exact number I came up with one day, but I was pondering which titles I want to blow my SP on for my SK & Inq, and what SP I'll have left between my characters, how long I ccould keep a T1 guild hall going if I stopped getting anymore SP that day. The suck is that when you get 50k faction, you can't do TS writs anymore, so if I were to spend all my SP for guild hall, I cannot rely on ts writs forever, my preferred SP method, unless I just create dummy TSers for the purpose of that.

Interesting. I hadn't realized that you couldn't get more writs once you had maxed out your status. I too am thinking of status for guild hall upkeep of a small guild. Well I reckon we don't have to worry for a long time with all the accumulated status we have between us but you have to look ahead! At the moment, I shall try to stick with writs to level as that does advance in two or three ways. Maybe now and then I will treat myself and do a pristine recipe!

Well then I have Great news for both of you.  I have had Max Faction with Coalition of Tradesfolks in Neriak for a long time and the writ giver still gives me timed writs.  I just threw another level on our new guild taking it from lv 30 to 31 and they still keep giving me my status and coin.

So if the Evil Ironforge Exchange won't give you writs then all you need to do is come to the true side of light and glory in Neriak and they will be more than happy to keep giving you writs.

Hope that helps

wow and people call me geeky about crafting.

Finnwizz wrote:

Well then I have Great news for both of you.  I have had Max Faction with Coalition of Tradesfolks in Neriak for a long time and the writ giver still gives me timed writs.  I just threw another level on our new guild taking it from lv 30 to 31 and they still keep giving me my status and coin.

Only timed ones? I hate doing timed ones. Not that they are hard but.. one little afk emergency and you lose everything you did. I haven't actually maxed any of mine to 50k.

Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:

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  The suck is that when you get 50k faction, you can't do TS writs anymore, so if I were to spend all my SP for guild hall, I cannot rely on ts writs forever, my preferred SP method, unless I just create dummy TSers for the purpose of that.

Zehl....I am confused by this statement. My main, Celena, has had 50K faction with Tunares Pages for a while now and still does TS writs. In fact, she just cranked some out a couple days ago.

edit cuz I cant type