The rage is strong with this one... If you had read my second post you would of seen it was the average of driving from point A-B 50 times, so ofcourse it's not gonna be accurate. At least not considering the Vanu WG positions, as you pointed out downhill is a different matter, was there a downhill? I don't know was looking for as flat terrain as possible. Which isn't the easiest part now with indar being impossible almost. Also yes I play NC but I'm no tank driver so I rarely go against magriders unless I'm trying to C4 them. Also you hit the nail on the head, yes Prowlers and Vanguards got to turn their chassis to "strafe" which in turn reduces their mobility. Since they can't just rush against a Mag in that position while a Mag can rush you. In other words a Mag can keep their forward moment now since the fix and still strafe to dodge. Heck if you did read you'd see that I even said that the reduction in forward momentum when strafing wasn't a good idea if it had been intentional which it wasn't. I do agree that I find most tank battles I observe to be ridiculous... Come on bloody charge, run under and smack them in the back. But no people seem to be in a sniping mind-set no matter what tank they're using. Another thing as well I did never state that their mobility over uneven terrain or being able to scale hills in unorthodox ways was overpowered, heck I was laughing my *** off at some of the points cause it was just such a ridiculous position. On Amerish this was... Besides never did I say that the weapons was overpowered... Really did I? No so didn't have to even bring that up. :S The only part that I personally found to be overpowered with the magrider is that IMO the choice for defensive cert is a no-brainer front armor since your gun is mounted in the front. Now to another thing, does the Magrider weapons have a damage trail or something cause I am constantly getting shot of my Flash by the Supernova without being hit and seeing the projectile flying way off target. :S Anyway next time just point out that the results might have been inaccurate due to downhill momentum increase.